Dan Lawlor: Are there Any Real Democrats in Rhode Island?
Monday, June 11, 2012
The NEA’s Pat Crowley offered a joke that encapsulated his view of the RI Progressive community's frustrations.
"The Rhode Island Democratic Party is a big tent. In fact, it's so big its a circus tent. Why a circus tent? That way they can let the elephants in."
This past week, Netroots Nation, a national, progressive bloggers conference, was held in Rhode island. Netroots was the context for attending a panel on "When Democrats Aren't Democrats: The Story of RI." The panel was moderated by Pat Crowley of the NEA, and featured well-known activists- Steven Brown of the ACLU, Paula Hodges of Planned Parenthood, Kate Brock from Ocean State Action (OSA), and Ray Sullivan of Marriage Equality (MERI). There were no panelists from progressive youth, immigrant, urban, rural, minority, environmental, arts, small business, or religious groups.

Crowley stated one purpose of the panel was for political observers, local and beyond, to focus more on the ideology of Assembly members, not on party labels. OSA Executive Director Kate Brock, echoed a similar sentiment, saying that Progressives need to see what works and what doesn't, and begin to think beyond party labels. "There are allies and non-allies in all parties", she said, citing local pro-choice Republican Dawson Hodgson, and pro-marriage equality Republican turned Independent John Savage.
Several panelists felt that the RI Progressive Community was "losing forward" - failing to pass legislation through the Assembly, but succeeding in implementing Executive Orders through the Governor's Office and in reaching out to more voters and convincing them of the importance of marriage equality or tax justice. In other words, RI progressives were losing at the legislature, but using the Executive Branch and attempts at cultural change to try to enact their agenda.
The panel was organized around four anecdotes related to disappointments that pro-choice, pro-marriage equality, pro-tax justice, and pro-civil rights groups have felt with the General Assembly over the last few years. From my perspective, underlining the specific complaints and frustrations of each group (Voter ID, Mandatory Ultrasound Bill, the Assembly's income tax cuts and resulting decline in revenue for cities and towns, and Rhode Island's hold-out against same-sex marriage), there was a thread of frustration with "dark of night" process and procedures in the General Assembly, which panelists admitted they tried to "circumvent" through the Executive Branch.
Hodges, originally from Missouri, said that "inside the Dome," "there is an unusual amount of order." Hodges went on to say there are three P's for how the Assembly leadership operates: "Pre-Ordained, Private, and Paternalistic." She explained, floor votes are pre-ordained by the leadership, decision-making takes place in private, and the attitude of leaders is very paternalistic when citizens try to become involved or lobby. This culture, she said, "is very difficult to break... and can be a stifling environment."
Teresa Tanzi, a RI Progressive Democrat (not a speaker on the panel), gave a keynote address later in the conference, where she implored audience members, "Join me - take the next step, run for office. You, with the fuller than full plate, yes you... I need you sitting beside me when the doors close." When the doors close.
An attendee at the event afterward said, "Things would not be so opaque (shrouded) unless someone benefited from it."
Crowley argued that, in Rhode Island, we are ruled by "Ted Green's Party" - Theodore Francis Green's Party. Going back to the beginning of the big-tent Democratic Party's ascendancy in the state, Crowley took us to the Depression. In 1934, a national Textile Worker's Strike was organized in an attempt to equalize wages in Northern and Southern textile factories. According to Crowley, Green, the elected Governor as a Democrat just prior to the strike, called out the National Guard to resist the strikers, with Green declaring "this is not a strike- this is a Communist insurrection." Four factory workers were killed by machine guns in Saylesville, RI, during rioting. TF Green was "lionized" for his decisiveness, and, building off Green's popularity, the struggling economy, and following some selective recounting, the Democrats seized both houses in the Assembly in a "Bloodless Revolution" in the subsequent election. Crowley remarked. "Only in Rhode Island could four workers die, but it was bloodless."
Brown said in Rhode Island "local connections are more important than national ones. Rhode Island is a nation unto itself - we go our own way, sometimes for good, sometimes for bad." Brown also said it is "not helpful to analyze civil liberties by party label." Brown pointed out that he was particularly frustrated with the passage of Voter ID, where legislator after legislator voiced support for the law not on data but because they had "seen, heard, or knew somebody" who had committed voter fraud. He exclaimed, "What other felony have so many people seen but not reported?"
Brown, like Hodges, expressed frustration with the "secretive legislative process," with decisions "voted on in the waning hours of the legislative session."
Brock argued that alongside this closed decision-making, there has been "an expansion of a regressive tax structure." She argued,"For the last 16 years, we have eroded the tax base, cut taxes for the wealthy, cut cities and towns, and the result has been increasing our property taxes and our car tax." Brock stated, according to the Institute for Tax and Economic Policy, "the Lowest 20% of Rhode Island income earners (those who make 18,000 or less a year) pay 11.9% of income in all local taxes, while the top 1% (those making $390,000 or more) pay a total of 5.6% in taxes.... this is incredibly broken."
Sullivan, Executive Director of Marriage Equality, argued, in most states, "when people become a [legislative] leader, they bring their agenda with them. In Rhode Island, leaders put their fingers in the wind, versus saying, 'Damn it, this is what I believe in.'"
Sullivan announced that at least 1,000 same-sex, married couples live in Rhode Island today - with many couples already having certificates from either Connecticut or Massachusetts. Sullivan was a bit erratic, but visibly angry about what happened with the failure to pass Marriage Equality in 2010 and 2011. "Last year was supposed to be "the year" ... we were 2-3...with an openly gay speaker, and a Governor who highlighted marriage equality in his inaugural... instead, we passed the worst, most discriminatory civil unions bill in the history of the Republic."
Sullivan described the State House as an "ivory castle" where the leadership has acted with a mentality of "don't get off the bus, don't embarrass the Speaker."
Sullivan declared that the Governor's Executive Order to recognize out of state marriages is a precursor to passing same-sex marriage. Sullivan declared, "We will pass this next year. I swear to God we will. We can't do this without a coalition."
To the group, during Q and A, one attendee raised the question, "Part of the problem is everybody knows everybody... how can we address that? How do you find the candidates to support?
Brock mentioned, "When we fight together, we win." She argued that Labor, Gay and Women's groups must work together to win elections and OSA will provide a list of endorsed candidates for the fall.
One attendee asked about the size of a Rhode Island legislator's staff. The room erupted into chuckles. Representative Theresa Tanzi stood up and announced that she is a sitting legislator, and she has "no staff, no desk, and, until three months ago, no internet."
Had this panel been organized by conservative RI groups - Tea Party, Chamber of Commerce, Right to Life, National Organization for Marriage - the content of the criticisms would have been substantially different. However, something would have remained the same - the "secretive legislative process," the attitude that is "pre-ordained, private, and paternalistic," "don't embarrass the speaker," "increasing our property taxes and our car tax," "an unusual amount of order," "only in Rhode Island."
For yours truly, even more than the issue-specific critiques, the image of an "ivory castle," isolated from the concerns of working Rhode Islanders was a strong take-away. In Rhode Island, from a certain view, Democrat means that you belong to "The Party of Current and Aspiring Mister Speakers."
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Comments:
Jeffrey deckman
8:30am on Monday, June 11, 2012
If "progressive" economics worked Greece and Spain would be the healthiest countries in Europe and the American experiment of America would never have gotten off the ground.
Doesn't matter what anyone thinks or wishes the facts displayed by history are indisputable
Dave Barry
9:06am on Monday, June 11, 2012
The fact that these 'progressives' (communists like Van Jones) chose RI to gather thier like-minded lefties is indicative of how low this state has fallen. Going on 70 years of democrat rule here and they want more? Liberalism really is a mental health issue.
Todd B
10:30am on Monday, June 11, 2012
This story reminds me of the socialists who used to praise the USSR for decades and then once it collapsed, responded by saying, "Well that wasn't REAL socialism".
Here's the deal. RI has been controlled by Democrats--"real" Democrats--for decades. It shares that trait with all of the municipalities across the nation currently facing bankruptcy.
Now Mr. Lawlor may suggest otherwise.
A "real" Democrat wouldn't oppose gay marriage. By this definition, President Obama (2008 version) is not a "real" Democrat.
A "real" Democrat is pro-abortion. By this definition, 1/3 of Democratic voters are not "real" Democrats nor is former President Jimmy Carter (2012 version), Sen. Bob Casey, Jim Langevin and so forth.
It is convenient to suggest that a party's failures are due to some external factor or the inability of its membership to meet a certain purity test. Joseph Stalin excelled at this type of logic. But just because something is convenient does not make it "real".
jon paycheck
10:49am on Monday, June 11, 2012
the real issue is that the democratic party no longer represents any people.
but now democrats only care about the special interests and the power and money they get from them.
i don't think they even care about the people that the special interests represent anymore....its just power and money...
J. Ferreira
12:01pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
It is clear that the biggest challenge in governing in this nation, let alone this state, is the absolute corruption of both of the major political parties. They are bought and paid for by corporate and other special interests who look for and get special insider access while the actual individual voters are marginalized and paid lip service at election time for their lousy votes. I consider my self a social liberal and a fiscal moderate (I am not against the social safety net, I am against the abuses and waste) and neither party in this state fully represents my beliefs. I vote split ticket, something too many people here are loathe to do. Time to end the two party system and turn to a more individualized election model that ends political party hegemony.
Mark Smiley
12:10pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
People really feel that party's are the problem. As an insider into party politics I can tell you that it's not the party's that are the problem, unless of course you feel that the party's NOT being able to keep their legislators in line is the problem. It's the outside influence of the Labor Union leadership and other special interest groups that are the real problem.
The Democratic Party could care less about the "little guy", however most of the State's voter still believes that is what they are all about.
Want to fix the State and it's party's? Educate voters on how it really works on Smith Hill. Try and make them understand that there is a choice, they do not have to vote Democrat because they are the 4th or 5th generation to do so.
J. Ferreira
12:23pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
Wouldn't it be better to encourage more people to run for the General Assembly as independents rather than representatives of party machines AND educate voters that NOT voting for parties will be better for them in the long run? Let's face it, while the Democrats are clearly a problem, does ANYONE really believe that the Republicans wouldn't be just as troublesome, but in a different way? Look at how much influence Koch brother money had on the recall election in Wisconsin. The Republican Party is JUST as addicted to bribe money as are the Democrats. The best way to address this problem is to peel voters away from party affiliations AND run credible, intelligent candidates who aren't beholden to the party leadership and their controlling money interests.
R G
12:47pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
These comments are the most hilarious bits of uneducated nonsense I've read in ages. I'm really hoping it's just Poe's Law at work.
J. Ferreira
12:50pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
Care to elaborate, RG?
R G
12:53pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
The first with Greece and Spain being cited as "progressive economics" and the constant sector of socialism/communism being mentioned. The economic situation in Greece for example is rather different and people who think progressivism and socialism are linked are clearly not linked into modern political theory. It reads like regurgitated pundit speak.
Todd B
1:26pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
@RG: Thank you for your erudite political insights. Now please enlighten self-proclaimed socialist and co-founder of the US House's Progressive Caucus Bernie Sanders that he does not understand "real" modern political theory, as socialism and progressivism are clearly not linked.
Gary Arnold
1:29pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
Labor, Women, Same Sex advocates equals Progressive bloggers? Only in RI.
Drop the labor out of the equation and I could live with the other thinking especially the problem of the 3Ps in the GA. Whoever the individuals or groups are, we must overturn the GA establishment it is proven to be too corrupt and deceitful that even the most disconnected person realizes they are not good for RI.
Unforgivably labor is part of the Democratic makeup in RI and can not be trusted or included in any reorganization of our state's politics, plain and simple.
Mark Smiley
2:14pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
Socialism and Progressivism are not LINKED! LOL! That's good enough for a stand up routine. You ought to take that to Las Vegas.
As far as whether we should get more people to run for office as Independents, go for it. The first problem is trying to get them to take the leap of faith. Then get them to take that leap of faith completely alone. Then get them to take that leap of faith with no financial support. Then get them to take that leap of faith knowing that when they get to Smith Hill, they can go sit in the corner like the rest of the "non-Democrats" do.
A better plan would be to bring some balance to in the General Assembly. 50% Dems, 50% Republicans. That way neither side can sneak anything through.
J. Ferreira
2:41pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
Would the Web staff PLEASE kill the auto-refresh so we can compose our thoughts and not rush to publish so we don't lose what we've written, please!!!!!!
J. Ferreira
2:51pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
A better balance would be 1/3 Dems, 1/3 Rep, 1/3 independents so the two major parties would be held in check by the need for independent votes.
Todd B
2:55pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
@Mark: You'll have to forgive RG as I'm sure he/she learned about political theory in an antiseptic academic environment in a class taught by a professor who has spent his/her life attempting to model the behavior of people living in the real world, all while never leaving the cocoon of the ivory tower.
Therein lies the difference between "hard" scientists and social scientists. A "hard" scientist will reject a theory if the application of the theory in the real world does not support it. Many social scientists will cling to their theory when the application of their theory in the real world does not support it. Instead, they will suggest the real world (which is what the theory is supposed to explain) is somehow wrong.
J. Ferreira
2:57pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
Socialism: State-directed economy.
Communism: state-owned/operated economy.
Progressivism: A general political philosophy advocating or favoring social, political, and economic reform or changes usually in opposition to conservative or reactionary ideologies.
There's no direct connection between socialism and progressivism, but there can be. The Greek, Spanish, American, British, etc. economies have been predicated on borrowing to pay for both necessities and extras within the government. This is no different than the majority of Americans who, for the last quarter century, buy increasingly more on credit and less with ready cash. Has little to do with socialism, much to do with fiscal irresponsibility. Both political parties have contributed to this, regardless of the noises Republicans are making now.
Dan McGowan
3:03pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
JF,
So sorry that always happens. I'm honestly not sure how to fix it, but will keep asking about it.
Best,
Dan
dmcgowan@golocalprov.com
Mark Smiley
3:11pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
Let me get this straight. You are saying that whatever conservatives want Progressives don't want and vice versa? So, Progressive's actually DON'T have a mind of their own, they just oppose whatever Conservative's want or don't want.
Interesting...
J. Ferreira
3:40pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
I merely quoted the dictionary. Note the use of the term usually, not universally. Theodore Roosevelt was a progressive, but he hardly sought a complete negating of all conservative ideologies. He sought reform of the excesses, the corruptions. If that is taken as the basis for progressivism, then there's plenty of excesses and corruption to be gone after in both parties...
E.J. Dunn
7:00pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
There are no real Democrats left in America.
For those who cannot abide the "auto refresh" aspect of this web site (J. Ferreira et al): Write your message in Notepad (or the Apple equivalent), then pick it up and drop it here.
The typing is the same. It does take a bit of effort and three or four seconds to lift and drop your message. But it's just a bit of effort, not a lot. And your frustration will be diminished.
Try it.
E.J. Dunn
7:03pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
More importantly, why can't this web site successfully manage DST? It's just a clock, for goodness sake.
Craig O'connor
7:49pm on Monday, June 11, 2012
I've asked the GLP people a gazilion times to kill the auto refresh. the fact that they don't shows you how little they care about their readers.