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Travis Rowley: Democrats: Slavery + Dependence = Freedom

Saturday, February 08, 2014

 

“It's adding insult to injury…As the welfare state expands, the incentive to work declines. Meaning, grow the government, you shrink the economy.” – Rep. Paul Ryan (R)

“The most important change which extensive government control produces is a psychological change, an alteration in the character of the people.” – F.A. Hayek, The Road To Serfdom (1944)


It’s really not that complicated. But leave it to Democrats to overlook this basic lesson on human nature: If one is being provided for, one has less incentive to provide for oneself.

Independence is a discipline most parents attempt to instill within their children. Unfortunately, the amount of Americans who relapse to a nascent mental state is enough to form a sizable political force called The Democratic Party.

And when such a socialist entity accumulates enough power to control large segments of the government, one is often forced to suffer hours of official testimony to explain what once were widely considered to be simple, primary, and natural truths.

So this week the nation watched the Director of the Congressional Budget Office, Douglas Elmendorf, appear before the Joint Deficit Reduction Committee in order to inform the country that everlasting welfare payments “[create] a disincentive for people to work.”

While he was there, the Director also explained that people tend to swim when they are tossed into a body of water.

Elmendorf was testifying in front of this congressional committee in order to elaborate on a CBO report that projected “nationwide losses equal to 2.3 million full-time jobs by 2021” caused by the Obamacare law.

It’s important to recognize exactly what this CBO report is saying. That is, in addition to the millions of jobs and working hours that businesses will cut, millions of Americans will also willingly remain out of the middle class – voluntarily work less, or not at all – in order to retain their Obamacare subsidies.

“As a result ... that [lower] labor supply lowers economic growth,” was the statement that Republican Congressman Paul Ryan directed toward Elmendorf.

Elmendorf’s response: “Yes, that's right.”


Fulfilling the Radical Dream

More than five years after Barack Obama told a roaring crowd that he and his supporters were only “five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America,” the President finds himself defending a lousy economic record. Last week, this culminated with a question he received from Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly: “Why do you feel it's necessary to fundamentally transform the nation that has afforded you so much opportunity and success?”

Appearing to be in denial that he ever proposed such a thing, Obama answered, “I don’t think we have to fundamentally transform the nation.”

Foisting socialism upon millions of cultural capitalists isn’t easy. Leftists have to lie. They have to shroud themselves in the language of American traditions. So Obama resorted to a message that he has recently become fond of employing during political appearances: “I think that what we have to do is make sure that, here in America, if you work hard, you can get ahead.”

But the problem for Democrats is that wealth redistribution doesn’t command work. In fact, it often discourages it. Particularly when the assistance comes in the form of life’s necessities – food, housing, and healthcare.

Even before Obamacare, the federal government had undoubtedly achieved the virtual fulfillment of the 1960’s radical “welfare rights movement” that “pushed for a guaranteed living income” for every American. According to the US Census Bureau, over 100 million Americans are currently participating in one or more means-tested government benefit programs.

Obviously, not all of these people are content with lives of government dependence. But a certain percentage certainly is. And another certain percentage is susceptible to being seduced. I’ll leave it up to the readers to determine what those percentages are, and to decide for themselves whether these statistics represent a cultural crisis or not.


For Millions, Obamacare is Welfare

This week’s CBO report helps to confirm human nature once again.

But Keynesian liberals still aren’t buying it. The key to economic recovery, Democrats contend, is to place artificial demand into the economy via wealth redistribution. With money in their pockets, the poor will purchase goods and services from the people who had the money taken from them in the first place. Soon, business owners will be hiring again. And all the millions of welfare recipients will be excited to remove themselves from the dole and take a job.

That’s the Democratic script.

Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D) and Rep. Steny Hoyer (D) have argued that “for every dollar a person receives in food stamps…$1.79 is put back into the economy;” that unemployment payments and food stamps “are two things that are the most stimulative that you can do;” that they are “the biggest bang for the buck.”

And, among several similar pronouncements, Obama famously told the world in 2008, “I believe when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

So it should have come as no surprise several months ago when the New York Times admitted that “the redistribution of wealth has always been a central feature of the [Obamacare] law.”


Imagine No Worries At All

This week’s CBO calculation is hardly forcing an ideological retreat. Rather, Democrats continued to characterize socialism as an economic driver while allowing their Marxist sensibilities to shine through – as they celebrated a utopian world of guarantees, and self-indulgence over labor.

While the CBO estimated that millions of Americans will become more economically idle as they become accustomed to their healthcare handouts, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney rejoiced over the fact that “individuals will be empowered to make choices about their own lives and livelihoods.” They will be able to “spend more time with their families” and will “have the opportunity to pursue their dreams.”

Yes, Jay, at other people’s expense.

Rep. Gwen Moore (D) argued that “people are going to have freedom and choice…Liberty! Something we thought Republicans were for…They’ll be able to be entrepreneurs, because they won’t be stuck in job-lock.”

Moore was echoing something that Nancy Pelosi (D) attempted to articulate last summer. One week before the Fourth of July, Pelosi encouraged everyone to celebrate the “health independence” that was made possible by the Affordable Care Act, legislation that “captures the spirit of our Founders” by enabling people to pursue “a healthier life and the liberty to pursue a person’s happiness, to be free of constraint, be job-locked because they’re policy-locked…So if you wanted to be a cameraman, a writer, you want to be self-employed, if you want to be, start a business, if you want to change jobs, whatever it is you want to do, you are free, you have the liberty to do.”

Pelosi forgot to mention “stay in bed” in her list of people’s potential activities.

Welcome to the modern Democratic Party – where dependence on others is actually “health independence;” and forcing others to pay for your healthcare is referred to as “liberty.”

Welcome to the modern Democratic Party – where everyone gets to act like a college sophomore for the rest of their lives!


Travis Rowley (TravisRowley.com) is the author of The RI Republican: An Indictment of the Rhode Island Left.

 

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What an idiot, most people will work, where are the jobs???

Comment #1 by lupe fiasco on 2014 02 08

Mr. Rowley don't let the facts get int the way of your argument. You and fox news have been misrepresenting those CBO numbers since they were released. The 2.3 million jobs lost will not be due to businesses laying off but almost entirely because workers will choose to supply less labor. Actually, since Obamacare went into effect, the private sector has created 8.1 millii jobs.

The reality is that it's Mr. Rowley's trickle down voodoo economic policies that have destroyed this country's middle class since Ronald the fraud Reagan started trashing government in order to allow the system to become rigged.

The truth of the matter is that all the money is not being drained from the bottom via liberal policies but being sucked to the top via republibagger scamming. The Walton family's collective wealth is equal to the bottom 40% of the country. 95% of all economic gains made since George W. Bush crashed the economy back in 2008 have gone to the top 1%.

Mr. Rowley unless you yourself are in the top 1%, promoting republibagger policy is the equivalent of a chicken promoting the policies of Colonel Sanders.

Comment #2 by Jonathan Bainsworth on 2014 02 08

LOL
The "deficit hawk" LYING Paul Ryan voted for every budget busting house bill since 1999. Including the vote for the largest entitlement expansion in 50 years, medicare part D, (with the stupid GOP amendment that makes it illegal for the government to negotiate for lower drug prices) also the infamous Republican "Bridge to Nowhere" foolish trillion dollar wars in Afghanistan and Iraq . Ryan also voted to bail out his friends on Wall Street, and the bailout of GM and Chrysler.

Comment #3 by Sammy Arizona on 2014 02 08

Paul Ryan donated a palty and $2,600 to charity in 2010 1.2 percent of his income, .How much did Obama give in 2010??? 14.2 percent

But it's LYING Paul Ryan who is the most prominent advocate of replacing state care with "private charity"
It's just that others will have to supply the charity. Judging by his past, Paul Ryan sure won't....LOL

Comment #4 by Sammy Arizona on 2014 02 08

This is directed at "lupe fiasco's" comment --

You say "most people will work." I just don't know about that. I have personally seen the welfare existence suck people in. It would be more accurate to say that "SOME people will work. And SOME people will be leeches."

I think Mr. Rowley has a point. But you're right, we do need jobs. In that respect, Obama and the Democrats have failed after 5 years.

Comment #5 by William Suffik on 2014 02 08

Most people will work? I don't know about that. Maybe. But you know what I'm CERTAIN about? EVERYONE would work if there's no welfare state.

And I see Bainsworth and Arizona are back again.

Bainsworth, why don't you read the article. Rowley starts out telling us exactly what the CBO report says, just as you did. So there was no "misrepresenting." Except by you. And after 5 years of this Obama economy, you keep blaming it all on Reagan. Really smart.

Arizona, you didn't even address anything the article said. As usual. Why are you talking about Afghanistan and campaign donations?

Comment #6 by Jeremy Soninjer on 2014 02 08

The leftist spin that came out after the CBO report was amazing. I don't think the administration's economist who went on TV to explain that not having a job because of Obamacare was, in fact, a good thing even believed his own explanation. And minister of propaganda, Jay Carney, a master of pretend rationality, even sounded weak.

There are hardcore leftists like Obama. I understand his intent and the calculated lies he uses to achieve his objectives. But I don't understand the fantasy-land followers who cannot seem to let objective analysis from the non-partisan, number-crunchers in the CBO penetrate through to their brains.

Comment #7 by Art West on 2014 02 08

William, We are not that far apart, I think most would work, some would not. I interact with low income people daily and believe that if they COULD get a job at a decent living wage they would run from TaverASS' city as fast as they could. Just my opinion.

Comment #8 by lupe fiasco on 2014 02 08

Throughout the annals of history, these socialist, Marxist policies have NEVER worked. The one big fat lie to the liberal/leftist orthodoxy is that you can consistently defy human nature. It will never happen.
The entire leftist agenda is one big fat lie wrapped in populist rhetoric which feeds into the ignorance of so many.
Just look at Rhode Island, a virtual petri dish of failed leftist policies. How that working out??

Comment #9 by James Hackett on 2014 02 08

and there is another group that would like to work but finds that its not worth it.

better to stay home, collect unemployment or other benefits and not work.

when you have adults setting this example of not working, what do the children do but follow the parents as role models. sllep late, get a government check,etc

its a shame. if people had jobs, self esteem, responsibilities, hope, then there would probably be a lot more respect for ones self and ones fellow man.

in many ways, some, not all, minorities are worse off now than they have ever been because of entitlements, etc. those that got educated have moved ahead. those that didn't are worse off now than the last 50 years. and the last 5 years has been a disaster for them.

Comment #10 by john paycheck on 2014 02 08

We are all being played by the left and right..The national political class and the global elite players are laughing at us all,this is their big game venue of low information stupid people fumbling around with all the bull crap issues of liberalism ,conservatism, race,gender,guns,liberty,gay,religion,women,immigration whatever! They are crafting bigger things behind the scenes and our well being is not their priority and they plan to walk all over us very soon.We have to stop looking at the narrow picture!..The shadow bosses are pulling all the strings..It's their party and you're not invited!..In your heart you know what's really going on but can't admit it because of your ideologies and party loyalty..WAKE THE 'F' UP!..Let's fight the big machine..not each other!

Comment #11 by LENNY BRUCE on 2014 02 09

JOJO, Bravo, someone gets it. The divide in this country is exactly what the super rich want. While they continue to benefit, the rest of us are bogged down in this Quagmire we call a country. Travis, on the fringe right, and those on the fringe left, are leaving this country to the wolves. I cannot believe that week after week, this Jabroni, spews his pure right wing spin, and just as bad is the likes of MSNBC with everything Left. I truly believe most of us are somewhere in the middle. This theory is proven every four years, after the primaries and the movement by both candidates toward the middle. The problem with the primaries, especially for the Republicans, are pandering to the religious right. For the left, it's the entitlement crowd. I for one can't believe that there are NO good ideas on each side of the isle. Travis cannot see this and HE is part of the problem!

Comment #12 by Stephen DeNinno on 2014 02 09

JOJO and Stephen, yes, you guys are zeroing in on a key issue: Power and the loss of individual liberty to support power. Political parties become irrelevant when they are corrupted by power.

So what gives people in power their ability to maintain power? Money of course. And money comes from taxes from me and you. Taxes keep the power elite going, creating their handout programs and control programs and belief programs -- dreamed up by elites, but paid by you and me.

This country was founded on the idea that power belongs in the hands of the people. Slowly and surely the controllers, regulators and power hungry have perverted liberty and consolidated power -- and a complacent, relatively content population has let them do it.

The real test of any politician is whether or not he or she wants to let you and me keep the fruits of our labor, or wants to extract more to feed the machine.

The only way to stop the big machine is to cut off its fuel -- tax money. That's the only way to restore the balance between individual liberty and power.

Comment #13 by Art West on 2014 02 09

Jojo, Stephen...Specifics, please. And also tell us your preferred course of action if it's something different than defeating the Democratic Party (the fascist party, anti-liberty party) with a renewed GOP (a more Tea Party, liberty-oriented party). Is your solution a third party, or something like that?

Art, I tend to agree with the sentiment of Jojo and Stephen, that the problems in this country go beyond the basic party bickering. However, I find the answer to two corrupt parties to be a return to basic principles (liberty, Constitution, states rights, etc). But I find there to be some hope within the GOP, who fights for things like LOW TAXES.

While it's clear that both parties have their problems, don't try to tell me --- like a lot of other internet elites --- that "both parties are the same."

Comment #14 by Jeremy Soninjer on 2014 02 09

Jeremy,

For me, the Democrats are too far gone -- they've become socialists, communists and statists. While the Republican establishment has become cozy in the trappings of Washington.

But, I can't see the US without political parties, and I can't see a third party doing more than handing victory to either one of the two major parties (most likely the Democrats).

I think that the best hope is a reformed Republican party with way more Tea Party energy and vision focused on individual liberty, low taxes and economic prosperity.

Comment #15 by Art West on 2014 02 09

Completely agree, Art. That's why I don't understand it when Stephen calls Rowley "part of the problem" --- I've always taken Rowley for an unapologetic Tea Partier / Constitutionalist / Liberty Republicans / Libertarian Ron Paul Type.

I'm just wondering if Stephen and JOJO MONKEY (?) are thinking along some other lines.

Comment #16 by Jeremy Soninjer on 2014 02 09

Art, and Jeremy, While I agree with small government and individual liberty, I have a problem with the Republican party telling me what their definition of liberty and freedom means. Until the Republicans back off social issues, such as abortion, gay marriage, minimum wage, and anti working folk measures. True freedom and prosperity will never occur. The Dems are not the party for anything to do with freedom and prosperity. I do have to ask you though, how are the Republicans helping the middle class? We all know the trickle down theory has been proven false, so just what Republican ideals need to be carried on, and which ones abandoned? Lets face it, without a higher tax on the very wealthy, AND cuts to social programs including the end of Obama care, our debt will drag us down. Why don't all politicians stay out of our bedrooms, classrooms, and work for the public good. By that I mean the vast public, not those with the money to lobby their own particular wealth. My solution? Term limits. Change the senate to two 6 year terms, congress to two 4 year terms. A viable third party is beyond our reach at this time. Secondly, I would ban all lobbying. If a billionaire wants to testify he must wait in line with the common folk, and be judged by his or her testimony alone. If we do not stop this government for life and for the highest bidder, we are doomed as a nation.

Comment #17 by Stephen DeNinno on 2014 02 09

Kind of confusing, Stephen. You're for small govt, individual liberty, cuts to social programs, and ending ObamaCare...But you support minimum wage edicts? Hiking taxes on the "very wealthy" (which is inconsequential at best, job-crushing at worst)? And you think "trickle down" (a euphemism for free-market capitalism) has failed?

I think you actually are someone who is stuck in the middle, rather than someone who really believes in individual liberty. Your feelings on term limits and lobbying are sound, but they need to be coupled with policies of limited govt/states rights/free markets.

As far as abortion and gay marriage: I think it's true that the GOP is losing some support because of their stances on these issues. Although, they may be retaining some support among older voters. But I'm pro-life and against gay marriage myself. And I don't see anything anti-liberty about those stances. Abortion is the murder of a human life. And homosexuals can get married if they choose to. But the rest of us shouldn't have to be forced to alter the definition of marriage for them. A closer look reveals that is is the Left, ONCE AGAIN, using the force of govt in regards to the "same-sex marriage" debate.

Anyway, it's sad that the emotional issues of abortion and gay marriage are so consequential. Democratic neo-communism is going to drown the American economy while you and I bicker over gay marriage. This is where I find the GOP to be much more deserving of our votes.

Comment #18 by Jeremy Soninjer on 2014 02 09

Jeremy, are you really telling me that trickle down works? Lets see....since the start of so called trickle down economics (BTW Reagan never called it that) We have seen the middle class gain after inflation about 5.6% While in just the last 20 years the wealthy and super wealthy have increased their compensation 255%. I would say not much is trickling down. Now to minimum wage. Since the first federal minimum wage law in 1938, Republicans have been fighting the law saying it will cause job loss. The studies proved them false. I am not for minors making a living wage, but adults that work at low paying jobs, should not be subsidised by the federal or state taxpayers. Because that is what is happening. Four of the richest Americans, Waltons, use their power and massive money to fight this all the way. They use faulty math that includes executive pay in their argument. They should be using the median income of course that would make their argument fail. Look at states with low or no minimum wage, only using the feds. They are less paid than states with a decent minimum wage. Proof positive that business owners will NOT compensate their workers fairly unless forced to do so. Now to the social issues. The country is changing, whether we like it or not. In fact look at total votes in congress shows if it were a popular vote the dems would control both houses. Gerrymandering is the one and only reason Republicans have control of the house. Without change, I fear we will never see a Republican president. Now to the tea party. Many people view the tea party negatively, due most to main stream media and honestly their own members. Here it's just a bunch of like minded citizens, down south, you have the confederate flag flying everywhere. I have seen this for my self so don't spin. Most Americans have a negative view of the Tea Party, because of the Government shut down. I don't believe they will be around much longer. At least as a force for change. And Jeremy what do you care what they call marriage? We hetero's have done such a great job with that honor.

Comment #19 by Stephen DeNinno on 2014 02 09

As to why I call Travis part of the problem? He's like Westminster st. One way! He cannot find one thing he would ever compromise on!

Comment #20 by Stephen DeNinno on 2014 02 09

Stephen, I'm not interested in debating several issues at once with you. Let's just say I disagree, and have seen competing studies that I found more convincing. And focusing on the small amount of billionaires in the country I find counter-productive. I don't care how much other people make.

The argument is this: Does capitalism or socialism lift more poor people out of poverty? Which one enables people to move into the middle class (and beyond) with more efficiency? Free markets is the answer ... hands down.

Which leads to the next point: FREE Markets. In one word, FREEDOM. You can't really say that you're for individual liberty if you're willing to force people to pay a certain wage, and support massive wealth redistribution via a progressive income tax. Argue all you want about the economic supremacy of government force, but don't claim that you stand for liberty while doing so.

And, let's be clear on gay marriage, because this get so easily confused: I don't CARE what anyone calls marriage. But don't say the government should FORCE me to agree with you. That's what "same-sex marriage" legislation does.

Comment #21 by Jeremy Soninjer on 2014 02 09

Ok so I used the Waltons? I'm picking on Billionaires? I picked them because they are the biggest employers in the USA. The average Walmart full time worker makes under the poverty level. Yup capitalism at it's best. There are other companies that do better, Costco for example. But I think the proof is all around us, that trickle down doesn't work. You can see it. As a college student, I worked at Sears part time. A hard job to get and they even wanted to see my transcript. They paid well, infact better than almost everyone. At that time, they were king of retail. They had full time workers that made commission, great service, they owned the customer is always right.....Now minimum wage, one of the worst companies to work for, most hated by employees and will probably be out of business within the next ten years. What changed? Greed! In other words when is enough enough? It will end up killing them! What is it that Gordon Gecko said...Greed is good???? Again, is there a place in the middle? As far as government forcing something on you... The south would still have slaves if you got your way! The times they are a changing.

Comment #22 by Stephen DeNinno on 2014 02 09

Stephen,

What you've touched on is proof that the free market works. The well-paid workers of Sears' successful past were part of their success and evidently recognized as such. Those workers provided value via better customer service. Today, paying their workers less will get them less enthusiastic workers, which impacts customer service, which leads to the downward spiral, which may mean bankruptcy. So it goes. Bad decisions result in failure -- and a competitor to take their place. Customers and competition ultimately decide based on value provided.

Who knows, maybe the same fate will befall WalMart if they don't cut their employees in on the action better.

If you prefer government intervention, you're seeing the results today. Examples include:

An overall stagnant economy. More people giving up and going on the dole. Even higher electric rates as the government forces power companies to buy higher-cost alternative power and wages war on coal-fired plants (putting workers out of work). Forced healthcare insurance that will sideline 2.3 million according to Congressional Budget Office projections.

Comment #23 by Art West on 2014 02 09

The socialist always cries over dying markets. Stephen, would you have had government save the horse-n-buggy industry when the automobile arrived on the scene? Because that's essentially what you're saying when you wail over workers in an industry slowly losing their wage value. People have to adapt. Free markets is still the best way for them to do that. Government is terrible at picking winners and losers in the numerous industries.

And you're going to have to come up with a better explanation than "greed"... Greed has always existed within the hearts of men. During these times that you speak of, when everything was getting worse for the middle class, maybe you should recognize that the government was growing by leaps and bounds.

And, for God's sake, Google "Dred Scott".... If I had my way, there would still be slaves? Newsflash: It was the GOVERNMENT that sanctioned slavery during the 18th and 19th centuries.

Comment #24 by Jeremy Soninjer on 2014 02 09

Stephen,
Because the Waltons are billionaires this automatically makes them bad? Sounds like emotional envy rather than rational analysis. Sam Walton and his family created a retail industry that provided thousands of jobs for people who voluntarily chose to work there. And as important he provided a shopping environment where those from the lowest economic level could afford to shop. In short Sam Walton and his family have provided a service to both those willing to work an to the consumer. Sounds like we should be praising Sam and his family. And doesn’t WalMart have a healthcare program that in some ways is cheaper than the ACA? Sears going out of business – just maybe they paid too much in salaries and their prices were too high. Hard to see “greed” as the driver here. Maybe mismanagement, but greed? Art maybe right that Sears provided a level of service that was right for a different era but the Wal Mart model may be right for the recent and current era. Things do change.

Comment #25 by Michael Byrnes on 2014 02 10

I will say one more thing....Watch the documentary The high cost of low prices. You can see it on youtube. It will debunk all your walmart dreams. Peace

Comment #26 by Stephen DeNinno on 2014 02 10

"But leave it to Democrats to overlook this basic lesson on human nature: If one is being provided for, one has less incentive to provide for oneself."

Just like slavery! Yes, who can forget the images of those contented slaves with no incentive to provide for themselves. How insightful and not at all offensive for you to point out, Travis.

Comment #27 by Russ C on 2014 02 10

"Throughout the annals of history, these socialist, Marxist policies have NEVER worked."

Yes, which is why we have such a problem with all those Canadians risking their lives to stream across the border and escape their socialized healthcare. LOL.

Comment #28 by Russ C on 2014 02 10

Stephen,

I will say one more thing - tell me who funded and produced this documentary and then we can talk about credibility.

Russ,

You need to spend your next vacation in one of the "worker's paradises". Maybe North Korea would be a good start.

Comment #29 by Michael Byrnes on 2014 02 10

I believe you guys are hiding behind the right wing mantra, more for the rich, crumbs for everyone else. If you were truly Tea party or Libertarian, you would hate the idea of Government having to subsidize private business employee's. I don't really care who paid for the documentary, and you can take what you want from it. I saw hard working businesses going out of business. And employees that can't afford the Health insurance that Walmart offers. I also see employees being told to go on food stamps and assistance. That is where I draw the line. If in a capitalist country, you are allowed to make obscene profits, while the taxpayers take care of your employees, that is a sin. And BTW why the name calling? I am more concerned about taxpayer abuse than you and I'm the Socialist? You should change the channel once in a while, Fox news has brainwashed you. The top 1% are thanking you for your support. After all they can't do it by themselves, they need sheep to vote in their bought and paid for congressional hacks! P.S. I don't watch msnbc or national network news. Try BBC America for real news.

Comment #30 by Stephen DeNinno on 2014 02 10

Fox News has brainwashed people? You mean the Fox News that warned everyone about ObamaCare, and not being able to keep your plan? Perhaps Fox critics should just cool out for a few weeks while the Obamacare debacle cools off.

Stephen, you act as if WE (conservatives/libertarians) are advocating for food stamps and low wages. You're right, companies can afford to pay their employees LESS if their employees can get their food for free. You see, the LEFT is the one protecting corporations.

Russ C, Canadians come to America by the thousands every year to get healthcare. Well, the ones who can afford to. The others have to wait in record-long lines. Canadian Healthcare is no success story.

Russ C, did you just equate the brutal life of slavery with a live of government welfare? Get a grip. But even if you're correct, wouldn't that make you the slave master for trying to put as many people as possible onto the welfare rolls?

Comment #31 by Jeremy Soninjer on 2014 02 11

OK Jeremy, so paying people so they are over the limit, and NOT on federal assistance is the Dems fault? They have meetings at Walmart telling people how to get welfare and snap. No Jeremy the corporations will NOT pay anywhere near the living wage without minimum wage laws. If it were the mom and pop stores fighting this it would be one thing, But it's not, it's Walmart, Target, Sears, Kmart, thats who's fighting minimum wage laws. So where's your proof that they will? One industry, which operates on small margins has historically paid higher wages, the grocery industry, they seem to be doing fine! Lastly I would believe your hype if it weren't for the likes of AOL outing employees premature babies as their reason for not matching 401k's. All while the CEO could have paid those bills with pocket change, despicable! I grew up at a time when America was great. My father was a tool maker and raised 6 children on his income and later my mom working part time. Where have those times gone? Is it the workers fault? Is it governments fault? Is it free trade agreements fault? I believe we are on the same page, but on different books.

Comment #32 by Stephen DeNinno on 2014 02 11

Stephen, you're denying Econ 101. Basic Economics. It's as simple as this: Employers must pay their employees a wage that retains them; a wage that makes them want to continue coming to work. This wage can be decreased if the government -- in addition to the employer -- is subsidizing the employees.

I don't know what WalMart would pay their employees if food stamps weren't available. But basic economics informs us that there would be added pressure on WalMart to increase wages.

You see, you want to initiate a controlled economy (socialism), based on your own set of values and limited knowledge concerning a whole set of industries. Basically, what you deem as "fair." This elitist economic system was the basis for Nazism, Fascism, Communism, and every other collectivist effort in the 20th century. Detroit!!

We want to set the markets free and increase competition (something else the corporations hate). The more job opportunities around, the higher the wages go as well. Again, this is because employers must pay a wage that keeps their employees around. CAPITALISM is what drives wages upward.

I'm pretty sure you're under the impression that the political Right is in the pockets of corporations, when it is, in fact, the Left who initiates "crony capitalism."

Comment #33 by Jeremy Soninjer on 2014 02 11

Jeremy,

Very well said.

Comment #34 by Michael Byrnes on 2014 02 11




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