State of RI Slams Unemployed with High Fees Tied to JPMorgan Chase
Thursday, March 13, 2014
Benefits recipient faced fees five times the official rates
But one recipient of unemployment benefits tells GoLocalProv that when he tried to withdraw cash from his card he faced fees that he described as five times that.
James Safford, of North Scituate, was periodically on unemployment benefits in 2012 and 2013 until the federal extension on the benefits was cut by Congress. Safford, who had worked as an archeologist for a cultural resources management firm, opted for the EPC card last December after a state employee at the unemployment benefits calls center told him he would receive his benefits faster that way. (The alternative is direct deposit through Citizens Bank.)
The card can be used to make unlimited debit card-style purchases at retail stores and online for bills, but Safford found there was a catch when it came to making cash withdrawals. When he tried to withdraw more than $100, the ATM he was using would not let him. The only way he could obtain more cash, Safford said, was by making a withdrawal from a bank teller.
“You can’t go to a Chase Bank. The only place you can go is another bank and deal with their fees,” Safford told GoLocalProv.
At the other non-Chase banks, the withdrawals were treated like cash advances on a credit card—even though the funds should have already been available—and the associated fees were “astronomical,” according to Safford. At Bank Rhode Island, Safford was told he would be charged $25 to receive a “cash advance.” At Citizens Bank, the charge was nearly $15.
Carne Ross, an Occupy Wall Street member who has studied banking issues, said the high fees reflect a national trend. “Debit and cash cards from the big banks are usually a rip-off, with lots of hidden charges. Since these cards are used by those without bank accounts, it’s a direct rip-off of the poorest and most needy for the benefit of the big banks,” Ross said.
State, bank officials dispute claim
But Safford’s experience with his EPC card was at odds with the explanation of fees provided by state and bank officials. An official list of Chase fees provided by officials at the Department of Labor indicated that, for most transactions listed, there simply were no fees, thanks to a new contract the state negotiated with Chase, according to Matthew Weldon, the assistant director of the department.
The highest fee a recipient could face, according to a document provided by Weldon, is $5, for withdrawals of cash from a bank teller. And that was only for the second withdrawal during a pay period. The first is free.
A spokesman for JPMorgan Chase said there are several ways recipients can access their benefits without incurring any fees. First, recipients can use their cards like a debit or credit card to buy food, clothes, or other items at a retail store. Second, the spokesman claimed they can make “unlimited cash withdrawals” at any Bank Rhode Island and Allpoint ATMs with no fees. Third, he said recipients can withdraw money from a bank teller at least twice a month for free.
“There’s plenty of ways for cardholders to get their funds for free,” said the spokesman, Mike Fusco.
Bank provides service for ‘free’ to the state
When Weldon was asked about Safford’s experience he responded in an e-mail message: “I don’t understand the fees to work the way described in your e-mail. Chase would have to answer that.”
Fusco denied the high fees were a possibility, describing Safford’s account as “not accurate.” When asked for an official Chase bank document listing what it charges in fees, Fusco said he did not have one.
Chase has a five-year contract with the Department of Labor and Training and the Department of Human Services and also provides similar cards for recipients of temporary disability benefits and food stamps.
“Debit cards exist for the fee income they generate. That’s the point. A prepaid debit card has no bank account behind it, so fee income is all the bank gets. Do you think they do this for free?” said Tom Sgouros, a local progressive policy expert who has recently published a book on banking and payment systems.
Sgouros was not surprised that the officially published list of fees does not account for all the fees a customer might actually face.
“There might be a forgiving schedule of fees published, but what about the fees that aren’t published, but are still common? You have to use this debit card like a credit card at a cash register and sign the slip to avoid the fees. Would you remember to choose that? There is no fee for the first withdrawal at a bank teller, but what about the second? Does the teller remind customers that there will be a fee? What are the overdraft fees mentioned in the fine print? Does that mean I get charged a fee when the debit card simply declines a purchase?” Sgouros said.
State officials, on the other hand, were surprised to hear about Safford’s experience. Weldon and other administrators at the Department of Labor and Training said they were not aware of any complaints over fees since the new contract took effect in June 2012 and they said GoLocalProv’s inquiry was the first they had heard about a benefit recipient claiming to have been hit with high fees.
As a result of the contract change, Weldon says the state was given a favorable ranking by the National Consumer Law Center, which, in a 2013 report, declared that, “Rhode Island jumps from a ‘thumbs down’ to ‘thumbs up’ as the card stopped charging for ATM balance inquiries, began offering unlimited withdrawals at in-network ATMs, and eliminated point-of-sale fees. The card also offers the most free out-of-network withdrawals of any state: two per weekly deposit."
The department publishes a how-to-guide for avoiding fees online (available here) and state officials said Chase bank also provides similar information to card recipients.
But Safford says he was provided little guidance. “There’s no information. There’s no one telling you this information. You just have to figure it out as you go,” Safford said.
Problems from beginning to end
Safford originally received his unemployment benefits through a direct deposit into his private bank account. But Safford found that when he changed his personal bank accounts—first as a result of a divorce, and then because of deposit delays at the second bank—it took about a month for the changed information to go through at the state level.
After the second change, Safford said he was told by a state call center employee that he could speed things up by just getting the EPC card. Instead of waiting more than a month to receive benefits, it would take just a few weeks to card the card, Safford was told, in a conversation with a state call center worker in early December.
The new card arrived in mid-December—and that’s when the problems with it began, according to Safford. He discovered that the card had no funds on it yet, so he tried to call the Chase customer service number on the back. Safford said he reached an automated service with “limited options” and “zero chance of talking to a person.” “It’s all automated and every option explains something—then [it] hangs up,” Safford said.
While waiting for his call back from the state, Safford also waited for the funds to show up in his account, which finally happened just days before the end of the year, when Congress failed to vote on an extension of federal unemployment insurance, resulting in a loss of benefits for an estimated 1.3 million people across the country.
For Safford the last straw came when he was ready to spend the last chunk of funds on the card. In mid-January, he said he needed to pay an $80 bill. He had about $60 left on the EPC card and needed the full $80 to pay the bill. Safford, who had been working part-time and collecting partial unemployment benefits since the summer, thought he would simply be able to deposit $20 from one of his paychecks onto the card.
Safford searched online for the closest Chase-affiliated ATM where he could make the deposit. He found one in Smithfield in a convenience store, but the clerk told him he wouldn’t be able to make the deposit there. When Safford drove to Chase ATMs in Cranston he didn’t fare much better. That’s when Safford realized he would have to go to a Chase branch to make the deposit—but the closest one he could find was in Montauk.
Weldon and other state unemployment benefits administrators told GoLocalProv that there were never meant to be bank accounts attached to the card. The service was not designed for recipients to deposit other money and combine it with unemployment benefits, they said.
“It was such a hassle that I got rid of the card and just stopped filing for my benefits,” Safford said. “I basically felt like the card and the call back delay time was done purposely to deter me from collecting benefits. If the road gets bumpy enough people will turn around and go back.”
“It’s unfortunate that he stopped filing because of his experience and we’d like to see if there’s any remedy for that,” Weldon said, when asked for comment. “I suggest that anybody in a similar situation rather than make a decision like stopping his benefits contact the department to see if we can work it out.”
Just as Safford was about to put the whole business behind him, he got a call in mid-January.
The caller was an employee at the unemployment benefits call center.
“I’m like, ‘The money was put on my card three weeks ago and my benefits were canceled three weeks ago, so why are you calling me?’” Safford recalled. “And they were like, ‘Well, because your name just came up on my queue to give you a call back.’ That’s how far behind they are. These benefits had been canceled for three weeks and they were still calling me back.”
Related Slideshow: 8 Discouraging Facts About Unemployment in RI
Worst in the Country
9.2% unemployment rate for Jan. 2014.
Although the national unemployment rate for January was 6.6%, Rhode Island's jobless rate was 9.2% – making it the highest in the nation. The 9.2% figure is one-tenth of a percentage point lower than it was in December 2013.
Source of data: RI DLT
Number of Unemployed
64 consecutive months with 50,000 or more unemployed.
The number of unemployed Rhode Islanders decreased from 51,055 in Dec. 2013 to 50,600 in Jan. 2014. That said, the number of unemployed Rhode Islanders has not been below 50,000 since September 2008, which is 64 months.
North of Nine
Above 9% unemployment for 63 straight months.
So just how long has Rhode Island's unemployment rate been above 9 percent? According to RI Department of Labor and Training statistics, the state's jobless rate has been over 9% since November 2008. That's a staggering 63 consecutive months.
Source of data: RI DLT
Months at the Bottom
Seven consecutive months with the worst unemployment rate.
Rhode Island's unemployment rate has been worst in country each month since July 2013. Prior to that, the state was tied for worst in the nation with Nevada May 2013 when both states reported a jobless rate of 9.5%. As of Dec. 2013, Nevada's unemployment rate has dipped to 8.8%.
Sources of data: RI DLT; Bureau of Labor Statistics
Worst in New England
Lagging behind the rest of New England in job recovery.
The rest of New England's states have not reported their unemployment rates for Jan. 2014, but the most recent Bureau of Labor Statistics data shows that their respective jobless rates pale in comparison to Rhode Island. In fact the average New England unemployment rate for Dec. 2013 was 6.9%.
Here's the complete list:
- Vermont 4.2%
- New Hampshire 5.2%
- Massachusetts 6.4%
- Connecticut 6.9%
- Maine 7.4%
Source of data: Bureau of Labor Statistics
Number of Employed Residents
Nearly 6,500 less employed residents than a year ago.
Rhode Island's unemployment rate may be lower than it was in January 2013, but this isn't reflected in the number of employed Rhode Islanders. In fact, there are 6,498 less people employed now than in Jan. 2013.
Source of data: RI DLT
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