Cicilline & Gemma in CD 1 Battle: Who Won the Debate?
Wednesday, August 29, 2012
The growing animosity between the two Democratic candidates for Rhode Island’s 1st Congressional District was clear Tuesday night at Rhode Island College during the first debate of the election season, hosted by WPRI and the Providence Journal.
After not shaking hands prior to the debate, incumbent Congressman David Cicilline and challenger Anthony Gemma spent 90 minutes sparring over the issues as a raucous crowd repeatedly interrupted the two candidates with cheers and boos for each individual.

Gemma Can’t Let the Race Become Washington-Centric
When asked to pick one of the nearly 1,700 votes Cicilline has cast over the last two years where he would have voted differently, Gemma failed to come up with an answer. The reason: The two aren’t all that different on the majority of issues. They are both against raising the eligibility age for Medicare, allowing nuclear weapons in Iran and school vouchers and they both support women’s rights, voter ID laws and growing the economy through manufacturing.
The problem for Gemma is that despite all their similarities, Cicilline comes across as the more authentic candidate when it comes to federal policy. If the two were boxers, Cicilline would be Floyd Mayweather; content with winning on the scorecard by picking apart his challenger with stronger talking points and a calmer approach. Gemma is more like Manny Pacquiao; hoping to connect with haymakers while leaving himself susceptible to a more cerebral opponent.
Character is Key
If Gemma can’t offer clear policy differences (other than his support for ending Saturday mail delivery), he needs to establish himself as the more likable candidate in the race. On Tuesday, he labeled Cicillne a liar, pulled out a few strong one-liners and again accused the Congressman of rampant voter fraud, but he failed to focus in on his track record for job creation (neither candidate mentioned that Rhode Island has the second-highest unemployment rate in the country) and his work with the Gloria Gemma Breast Cancer Resource Foundation.
Instead, Cicilline mostly managed to stay above the fray, including suggesting that he would vote for Gemma if he were to lose the September primary and even crediting his opponent for the work he has done to honor his mother. Gemma meanwhile said he wouldn’t vote for Cicilline (neither would 52.1 percent of his supporters) and when asked to say one nice thing about the Congressman, he said he liked Cicilline’s tie.
Providence Matters


Gemma’s opening remarks focused on the Congressman and former Providence Mayor’s misleading statements about the city’s finances during the 2010 campaign, but other than a few jabs throughout the debate, Gemma never homed in on the struggles of the capital city.
Monday’s WPRI poll suggested that nearly 80 percent of voters consider the city’s finances somewhat or very important when it comes to deciding on how they’ll vote in the Congressional race. Even though Cicilline stumbled when pressed about his handling of the city’s finances, Gemma rarely mentioned the $110 million deficit Cicilline left for Mayor Angel Taveras and never mentioned the fact that the city has the highest Hispanic unemployment rate in the country.
Voter Fraud Isn’t Working
Gemma may very well be on to something when he claims that voter fraud has been rampant in Providence over the last decade, but it’s unlikely to help him close the 12-point deficit he faces before the Sept. 11 primary. In Monday’s poll, 63.9 percent of likely primary voters said they are somewhat or very confident that Rhode Island’s elections are fair and honest.
Gemma’s problem is that he has been unable to convince the public that he actually has evidence that ties the Congressman to any wrongdoing. During the debate, Gemma spent too much time focusing on the crowd’s reaction to his claims rather than rolling out his case against Cicilline to the viewers at home. This gave Cicilline, who afterward called Gemma’s accusations “infuriating,” the opportunity to dismiss the claims and simply move on.
Cicilline Still Vulnerable
While most weren’t surprised to see Cicilline outperform Gemma during the debate, the Congressman still has an uphill battle when it comes to explaining the city Providence’s finances. The poll numbers may not change much over the next two weeks, but look for Gemma to spend far more time focusing on Cicilline’s record as Mayor of Providence, which is clearly still a point of contention for many voters.
Even if Cicilline goes on to win the primary, it will be difficult to win a character battle with Republican Brendan Doherty, who previously served as Superintendent of the State Police. Doherty won’t be able to match Cicilline when it comes to policy, but unlike Gemma, he probably won’t become unhinged either.
Dan McGowan can be reached at dmcgowan@golocalprov.com. Follow him on Twitter: @danmcgowan.
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Comments:
Todd B
6:59am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
"The growing animosity between the two Democratic candidates for Rhode Island’s 1st Congressional District..."
Oh, there's now "growing" animosity. The animosity has reached its maximum level. The guys would kill each others families if given the chance...and Cicilline knows some people, know what I'm sayin....?
"When asked to pick one of the nearly 1,700 votes Cicilline has cast over the last two years where he would have voted differently, Gemma failed to come up with an answer."
Wait, were those 1,700 votes the votes Cicilline cast in Congress or were they the votes he cast for himself during the '10 election?
"Even if Cicilline goes on to win the primary, it will be difficult to win a character battle with Republican Brendan Doherty..."
Difficult? Try impossible. The guy who keeps mobsters out of jail vs. the guy who puts mobsters in jail. Tough one to beat.
Edward Smith
7:48am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Doherty's claim of superior integrity and character won't get him very far if in a debate. Doherty's rhetorical ability or lack thereof would make Gemma look like a Rhodes scholar and will prove to be a serious handicap for him to overcome. Doherty does not have a grasp of the issues and is not quick on his feet. As was proven last night there are only so many times you can attack Cicilline before the questions turn to national policy. Anyone remember how Whitehouse beat Chafee?
Todd B
7:59am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
@Edward: I'd grant you that Cicilline is a far more polished debater than Doherty. After all, Cicilline can lie through his teeth and get people to believe it. Anyone remember the debates in 2010 when Cicilline assured everyone that Providence was in great financial shape while knowing the opposite was true?
I don't see Doherty as a great debater, but I also don't see him as saying something that is going to doom his candidacy either.
David Allen
8:07am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Ed Smith, clearly you have not been out to see or hear Doherty in quite a long time. But, if your qualifications for a congressman start and stop at understanding issues and voting 99.9% of the time on party lines, and dont include HONESTY, INTEGRITY, CANDOR, and the ability to look someone in the eye and speak the truth, you should vote for Cicilline.
As a state, we deserve better than a compulsive LIAR.
David Allen
8:12am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Tim White did a great job of teeing up why absolutely nothing gets done in Congress any more. Representatives like Ciciline voting strictly along party lines - Cicilline did over 99% of the time - means he has zero ability to reach across the aisle, compromise, understand two sides of an issue and concede when wrong. Is he always right? Is his party always right? Doubt it. He is exactly what is all wrong with Congress.
We dont need to waste money on a Congressman like Cicilline - we can hire a chimp to vote as his party instructs.
Liar Cicilline is sickening. .
Roland Lavallee
8:51am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
I think if you check the pockets of the Cicilline supporters, you'll find $50.
That wasn't a debate, it was a sideshow at a local carnival where you'd walk away to see the fat lady.
Doherty won the debate.
Bernie McCrink
9:24am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
The runaway winner last night was Brendan Doherty.
anthony sionni
9:54am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Why didn't cicilline answer yes or no to the question of paying his workers cash,hmmmm
Todd B
10:19am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
The part that kills me is Cicilline is doing the same thing in DC that he did in Providence.
In Providence, he denied that there was a sustainability problem with pensions. In Congress, he is denying that there is a sustainability problem with Social Security and Medicare.
Just as he denied the truth in Providence, he's denying the truth in Congress. We saw what happened in Providence, let's hope we don't see the same thing happen to the country.
Cicilline may be a far better debater than Doherty. But it's not like he is some uber debater. John Loughlin outdebated Cicilline in 2010 and nearly beat him despite being heavily outspent with little outside support. And that was back when the media was praising Cicilline's "fiscal discipline" as mayor and before the public realized he was lying about Providence's finances.
vin coia
10:23am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
it is exasperating when cicilline is asked a direct question , and is allowed to
not respond directly .
he just goes off on unassociated tangents , until they move on .
Rhonda Bennett
10:32am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Gemma came out swinging but faded on the backstretch against the professional liar and fraud. Cicilline is a master deceiver and dodged many important questions. The reporters need to hold his feat to the fire. If he doesn't DIRECTLY answer the questions keep rubbing his face in the fact that he hasn't.
The state is a mess. How can someone with any ounce of decency actually support David Cicilline. The lying fraud of Rhode Island. The Democrats clearly hold him up as their poster child. This just proves how corrupt their party is, and that is with not even discussing voter fraud. They care only about themselves and little for our state. They have no ethics and they are all in the same bed, figuratively. These power hungry connected self-servers won't rest until they bleed every dollar out of all our cities and towns and it all collapses. WAKE UP RHODE ISLAND the whole country is laughing at us!
Captain Blacksocks
10:40am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
I hope Doherty can take advantage of the situation quickly. Is the man planning to run any TV ads that take on Cicille's positions before the Nov elections? Seems like the ads couple be a farily powerful tool to let the voters now how Doherty is very different from his opponent. I don't think people are getting the message yet. Where is the message?
Todd B
10:56am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
"Why didn't cicilline answer yes or no to the question of paying his workers cash,hmmmm"
Because he wasn't pressed on the issue--and why would he want to incriminate himself?
"How can someone with any ounce of decency actually support David Cicilline."
Anyone supporting Cicilline has an alternate reason for doing so. Much like the Democrats who defended slavery once said they would "vote for a yellow dog before they would vote for any Republican", RI has its share of Yellow Dog Democrats.
"WAKE UP RHODE ISLAND the whole country is laughing at us!"
Cheer up, it's not that bad. Most of the country doesn't know RI even exists.
Roland Lavallee
11:05am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
There are two questions that should be asked for Cicilline voters.
1. Are you receiving government assistance?
2. Is English your first language?
Bernie McCrink
12:38pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
How can you support Cicilline when he gave Obama an "A" for his performance in running this country.
And why do Cicilline's supporters chant " Go David Go" ? Isn't that what the rest of us want him to do ?
Joyce Bryant
12:43pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
...Good one, Roland LOL
Howard Miller
4:06pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
who won the debate that is an easy one i did i did not listen to it
Blais Hazelwood
5:40pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Chickachini is the polished candidate and liar. Gemma is the character fighting a personal[his own words said to a candidate during last election] vendetta against Chickachini. The winner in this debate is clear Brendan Doherty.